[JoshLind]

Calgary got a lot better as a team today. Phaneuf has never been great defensively, and wasn't doing much offensively for the Flames this year either. Keith Aulie is a decent prospect, but I think Frederik Sjostrom is and always will be a fringe NHLer.

By contrast, Ian White is a better defender than Phaneuf, yet also has more points acquired on a worse team. Then there's Hagman and Stajan, who turn Calgary's lineup into a really solid bunch:

Bourque - Jokinen - Iginla
Hagman- Stajan - Lundmark
Glencross - Langkow - Conroy
Dawes - Boyd - Moss

Bouwmeester - White
Regehr - Giordano
Pardy - Johnson

Kiprusoff
McElhinney

[RickM67]

Can't wait to see how the new players all fit into the Sutter's system.

Are there more moves in the wing for the underachieving Flames?

[alfie forever]

The key are the upcoming free agents which the Flames never manage to re-sign. This could hurt them in the future.

However, I think they'll just sneak into the playoffs, especially is Nashville, LA, Colorado, Phoenix or Detroit goes on a cold streak.

[JoshLind]

Originally Posted by alfie forever

The key are the upcoming free agents which the Flames never manage to re-sign.

IMO the only really important one is Rene Bourque. With the possible exception of Jokinen, Calgary can afford to lose the other guys (and get some cap relief and picks back)

[Rayzor123]

Flames just traded Olli Jokinen to the NY Rangers for Kotalik and Higgins.

WTF is going on here? This team is one huge cluster****, looks like they're in big time panic mode.

[Erik Karlsson]

Originally Posted by Rayzor123

Flames just traded Olli Jokinen to the NY Rangers for Kotalik and Higgins.

WTF is going on here? This team is one huge cluster****, looks like they're in big time panic mode.

You win 6-1 against a bad team though show signs of strength.

Either way, Jokinen has been struggling, though as someone said in a previous thread, i believe Phaneuf will excell an be the best defenceman he can be.

The should not have rushed the Phaneuf trade imo.

[JoshLind]

Originally Posted by Rayzor123

Flames just traded Olli Jokinen to the NY Rangers for Kotalik and Higgins.

WTF is going on here? This team is one huge cluster****, looks like they're in big time panic mode.

The deal hasn't gone through yet, but if it does, I think Calgary wins big time.

[GooSsens]

I agree with you, if that deal goes through --- Calgary is the winner!

[Flexpack]

It is going to take the Flames 5 years to shake the Leaf Disease.

[JoshLind]

Bourque - Stajan - Iginla
Hagman - Langkow - Kotalik
Dawes - Boyd - Higgins
Glencross - Conroy - Moss
Lundmark/McGrattan

Bouwmeester - Giordano
Regehr - White
Pardy - Johnson

Kiprusoff
McElhinney

[Flexpack]

Originally Posted by JoshLind

Bourque - Stajan - Iginla
Hagman - Langkow - Kotalik
Dawes - Boyd - Higgins
Glencross - Conroy - Moss
Lundmark/McGrattan

Bouwmeester - Giordano
Regehr - White
Pardy - Johnson

Kiprusoff
McElhinney

FIXED

[_13_]

Originally Posted by JoshLind

C Keith Aulie is a decent prospect, but I think Frederik Sjostrom is and always will be a fringe NHLer.

By contrast, Ian White is a better defender than Phaneuf,

Josh, dude! Like I said before, Ian White and his moustache are 2 of my favorite Toronto Maple Leafs, nevermind this years numbers, there is no way in the blue hell that White is better than Phaneuf. I even expect Aulie to be better than White when the time comes.
And yes, Sjostrom is a fringe NHL'er, just like Mayers as of late.

[Spezza'sGirl]

Originally Posted by _13_

Josh, dude! Like I said before, Ian White and his moustache are 2 of my favorite Toronto Maple Leafs, nevermind this years numbers, there is no way in the blue hell that White is better than Phaneuf. I even expect Aulie to be better than White when the time comes.
And yes, Sjostrom is a fringe NHL'er, just like Mayers as of late.

I still can't believe we got Aulie out of the Flames!

[GooSsens]

Originally Posted by _13_

Josh, dude! Like I said before, Ian White and his moustache are 2 of my favorite Toronto Maple Leafs, nevermind this years numbers, there is no way in the blue hell that White is better than Phaneuf. I even expect Aulie to be better than White when the time comes.
And yes, Sjostrom is a fringe NHL'er, just like Mayers as of late.

He said what is a better "defender" and didn't white have more points this year than Phaneuf. I think that Phaneuf has potential of course (he's shown it), but as a defensive player, I'd say he isn't better than WHite (especially not this year). As an offensive defensemen sure.

[JoshLind]

Originally Posted by Flexpack

FIXED

What did you fix?

[Flexpack]

Originally Posted by JoshLind

What did you fix?

Your trade wished I thought. I feel so bad for Galgary as soon as one Canadian team gets better another one starts to sink.

[GooSsens]

Stajan had a nice little goal last night! I just saw it. I'm hoping those guys do well. Lol.

[GooSsens]

Oh man... so my bf now always jokes that the Flames are the old leafs... because of all the leafs players they have....

But I was looking at Toskala's stats on the leafs and WOW!

3 games played for the Flames and ---

Shots Against: 34+8+29 (71)
Goals Against: 2+0+2 (4)
Saves: 32+8+27 (67)
SV%: 0.943

Thats pretty good! Good for him!

Other players who were Leafs players:

Stajan: 15 games played (3 goals, 6 assists - 9 points, +0)
White: 15 games played (0 goals, 6 assists - 6 points, +9)
Mayers: 15 games played (1 goal, 2 assists - 3 points, +2)
Hagman: 15 games played (1 goal, 3 assists - 4 points, +0)

[Jasmine]

Listening to Molson That's Hockey, on TSN and they were discussing Glencross' recent contract sig..and the fact that he was honoured with a NMC...making him the 11th player on the Flames' roster with a NMC. That is absurd. You would think GMs around the league would have learned by now. IMO, not alot of players deserve that clause.

[Rayzor123]

Calgary will be in the same position Toronto was a while ago...