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02-18-2010, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt the Aussie
Plus he makes a TON of cash - upwards of $6M I believe...
And why do we want Arron Asham?
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6.33, but he is worth that easy. Haha, I dunno, I just threw in Asham to bring the cap hit closer. Hes not really needed at all. Still though, Murray should call up Holmgren and offer Kovalev and Kuba, see what happens from there.
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02-18-2010, 03:08 PM
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I guess if you get rid of Kovalev and Kuba, you can afford him.
Asham is a good player and all (a former Islander to boot), but he's not what the Sens need in terms of their team. We have too many bottom 6 players as it is.
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02-19-2010, 03:54 PM
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Snoop Gonchy Gonch
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Should just put all the Kovalev proposals to rest. He is not going anywhere, and that suits me just fine
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02-19-2010, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AK27ReLoaded
Should just put all the Kovalev proposals to rest. He is not going anywhere, and that suits me just fine
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lol, I kinda guessed that you would be
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02-20-2010, 04:04 AM
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going for seidenberg sounds reasonable.
if we somehow can't manage to re-sign volchenkov, he'll be a plan B
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02-20-2010, 11:14 AM
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Gonchar-Karlsson BOOOOOOM
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Originally Posted by Choi
going for seidenberg sounds reasonable.
if we somehow can't manage to re-sign volchenkov, he'll be a plan B
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Believe me, if Murray can't re-sign Volchenkov than i think we'll see a bigger plan B than just Siedenberg.
Like Volchenkov For Burns.
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02-20-2010, 01:58 PM
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Volchenkov will get re-signed no worries. We already screwed up with Chara lesson learned.
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02-21-2010, 02:50 AM
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At this point I think trading Volchenkov is no longer an option. The deadline will pass, Murray will make another move for another defenseman and keep trying to sign Volchenkov. Either he will or he won't. If he does great, If he doesn't, Murray will try to sign a Hamhuis, Michalek, Seidenberg, Mitchell, Lydman, Tallinder or someone along those lines for a bit cheaper.
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02-23-2010, 03:00 PM
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Gonchar-Karlsson BOOOOOOM
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Filip Kuba, Jim O'Brien and 4th rounder in 2011
For
Pavel Kubina.
Chris Campoli
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Sean O'Donnell
Kubina-Karlsson
Phillips-Volchenkov
O'Donnell-Carkner
STANLEY CUP BABY!
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02-27-2010, 04:25 PM
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Dallas Stars - Chicago Blackhawks
To Dallas: Cristobal Huet, Shawn Lalonde
To Chicago: Marty Turco
Chicago standpoint: Even after trading Barker, Chicago still needs to shed more salary to get under the cap for next season. Turco is a UFA at season's end while Huet still has 2 years left after this one. Turco is a very good, playoff-proven goaltender who would be ideal for the long cup run they are looking to make this spring. Dallas would be doing Chicago a favor taking the rest of Huet's contract so Chicago throws in Shawn Lalonde, and they can afford to lose him after acquiring Nick Leddy from Minnesota.
Dallas standpoint: Turco is a UFA at season's end so it would be ideal for them to get what they can for him. They get a pretty good goalie who can mentor and split games with Kari Lehtonen. Not to mention carry the load when Lehtonen gets injured, and you know he will get injured. And in return for taking on Huet's salary they get a good defense prospect in Lalonde to replace Vishnevski, whom they gave up in the Lehtonen deal.
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02-27-2010, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Innocent_bystander
Dallas Stars - Chicago Blackhawks
To Dallas: Cristobal Huet, Shawn Lalonde
To Chicago: Marty Turco
Chicago standpoint: Even after trading Barker, Chicago still needs to shed more salary to get under the cap for next season. Turco is a UFA at season's end while Huet still has 2 years left after this one. Turco is a very good, playoff-proven goaltender who would be ideal for the long cup run they are looking to make this spring. Dallas would be doing Chicago a favor taking the rest of Huet's contract so Chicago throws in Shawn Lalonde, and they can afford to lose him after acquiring Nick Leddy from Minnesota.
Dallas standpoint: Turco is a UFA at season's end so it would be ideal for them to get what they can for him. They get a pretty good goalie who can mentor and split games with Kari Lehtonen. Not to mention carry the load when Lehtonen gets injured, and you know he will get injured. And in return for taking on Huet's salary they get a good defense prospect in Lalonde to replace Vishnevski, whom they gave up in the Lehtonen deal.
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Makes a lot of sense!
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05-20-2010, 06:24 AM
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Here it is folks, the hot tamale, the grand-daddy of all trade proposals. This is the one that makes 3 franchises.
To Edmonton: Toronto's first round pick (2nd overall, from Boston), Columbus' first round pick (4th overall), Vancouver's 2nd round pick (56th overall, from Columbus)
To Boston: Edmonton's first round pick (1st overall), Edmonton's 2nd round pick (31st overall), Calgary's 3rd round pick (75th overall, from Edmonton)
To Columbus: Sheldon Souray, Boston's first round pick (15th overall)
Edmonton's Standpoint: Hall or Seguin? Doesn't really matter to them. Instead, they concede Hall to Boston and get the 4th overall pick as well. They lose the 31st pick and the 75th pick but they have two 2nd rounders and two 3rd rounders so they can live without them. Souray has demanded a trade from the organization so they give him to Columbus to get that 4th pick. They're not just giving Souray away though, Columbus has to work for him, so along with dropping from 4th to 15th, they give up the 56th overall pick. Edmonton now has their two 2nd rounders again. Seems a bit like Edmonton is getting a raw deal with everything they are giving up, but keep in mind, Souray isn't gonna be easy to give away with his huge contract and well-known trade demand, and that 4th pick could be huge.
Boston's standpoint: Savard, Bergeron, Krejci on the roster. Colborne, Hamill, Sobotka in the system. Is that enough centers? Boston needs a speedy sniper on the wing to replace Kessel... Hall is going to be even better than Kessel, they want him bad, so bad I would go as far as to say they need him. They trade away their 2nd first round pick (15th overall) in order to move up one spot to get him. But Pete Chiarelli isn't in the business of getting swindled, he gets back the 31st (from Edmonton) and the 75th (also from Edmonton) overall picks.
Columbus standpoint: They need a powerplay quarterback. Everybody knows this. They need that booming shot from the point. Sure they have Kris Russell and John Moore coming up and if they pick Fowler or Gormley... stop. They have Nash, Filatov, Voracek, Umberger, Brassard etc. all in their primes right now or coming into their primes in 2 or 3 years. They need to get competitive soon if they wanna have a chance at a cup, before they start losing those guys to free-agency. They can't wait for Moore or Gormley to be ready, they need Souray now. They have the cap space to take him on. They only drop from 4th to 15th, so they still get a pretty good first round pick. They lose their 56th overall pick but they still have their own 2nd round pick (34th, so it's not a big loss), and that's what Edmonton demands to compensate for everything they're giving up to Boston. We all know when Souray is on his game (21 goals), he is worth every penny.
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05-20-2010, 07:56 AM
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Draft Watch!!!
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Alright, I sort of got this from Rayzor...
To St. Louis- Carey Price, 1st round pick (27th overall), Ben Maxwell.
To Montreal- Patrik Berglund, 2nd round pick (44th overall).
St. Louis' Standpoint: The Blues could really use a young goaltender with the potential to be an all-star, and they get that in Carey Price. Price hasn't been all that good for Montreal the past few seasons, but with a fresh start in St. Louis, (not to mention, a little less pressure) he could live up to his potential. The Blues are moving up in the draft by trading their 2nd for Montreal's 1st, that's good for any team. They may be giving up Patrik Berglund, a potential 2nd line center in the future, but they have young up and coming prospects such as Lars Eller to fill the void up the middle. Ben Maxwell is a good addition to the prospect pool for St. Louis, he came into the trade just to even it up for both sides.
Montreal's Standpoint: Montreal is pretty small when it comes to the top 6, so Patrik Berglund is a perfect fit for the Habs standing at 6'4'' and 215lbs. Since Halak has stolen the starting position in Montreal, the Habs don't have any need for Carey Price anymore, and may as well get something useful for him. The Habs give up their 1st round pick, but don't move that much further down in the draft anyway, drafting at 44th overall.
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05-20-2010, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Innocent_bystander
Here it is folks, the hot tamale, the grand-daddy of all trade proposals. This is the one that makes 3 franchises.
To Edmonton: Toronto's first round pick (2nd overall, from Boston), Columbus' first round pick (4th overall), Vancouver's 2nd round pick (56th overall, from Columbus)
To Boston: Edmonton's first round pick (1st overall), Edmonton's 2nd round pick (31st overall), Calgary's 3rd round pick (75th overall, from Edmonton)
To Columbus: Sheldon Souray, Boston's first round pick (15th overall)
Edmonton's Standpoint: Hall or Seguin? Doesn't really matter to them. Instead, they concede Hall to Boston and get the 4th overall pick as well. They lose the 31st pick and the 75th pick but they have two 2nd rounders and two 3rd rounders so they can live without them. Souray has demanded a trade from the organization so they give him to Columbus to get that 4th pick. They're not just giving Souray away though, Columbus has to work for him, so along with dropping from 4th to 15th, they give up the 56th overall pick. Edmonton now has their two 2nd rounders again. Seems a bit like Edmonton is getting a raw deal with everything they are giving up, but keep in mind, Souray isn't gonna be easy to give away with his huge contract and well-known trade demand, and that 4th pick could be huge.
Boston's standpoint: Savard, Bergeron, Krejci on the roster. Colborne, Hamill, Sobotka in the system. Is that enough centers? Boston needs a speedy sniper on the wing to replace Kessel... Hall is going to be even better than Kessel, they want him bad, so bad I would go as far as to say they need him. They trade away their 2nd first round pick (15th overall) in order to move up one spot to get him. But Pete Chiarelli isn't in the business of getting swindled, he gets back the 31st (from Edmonton) and the 75th (also from Edmonton) overall picks.
Columbus standpoint: They need a powerplay quarterback. Everybody knows this. They need that booming shot from the point. Sure they have Kris Russell and John Moore coming up and if they pick Fowler or Gormley... stop. They have Nash, Filatov, Voracek, Umberger, Brassard etc. all in their primes right now or coming into their primes in 2 or 3 years. They need to get competitive soon if they wanna have a chance at a cup, before they start losing those guys to free-agency. They can't wait for Moore or Gormley to be ready, they need Souray now. They have the cap space to take him on. They only drop from 4th to 15th, so they still get a pretty good first round pick. They lose their 56th overall pick but they still have their own 2nd round pick (34th, so it's not a big loss), and that's what Edmonton demands to compensate for everything they're giving up to Boston. We all know when Souray is on his game (21 goals), he is worth every penny.
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I think only Edmonton might have an issue with this. They're trading Souray, 1st Overall, 31st Overall, and 75th Overall for 2nd, 4th,and 56th. I'd want a bit more if I was giving up Souray. Although, things do seem to be getting pretty sour with him in the Oil, so maybe they take the cap space and run...
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05-20-2010, 02:47 PM
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I think only Edmonton might have an issue with this. They're trading Souray, 1st Overall, 31st Overall, and 75th Overall for 2nd, 4th,and 56th. I'd want a bit more if I was giving up Souray. Although, things do seem to be getting pretty sour with him in the Oil, so maybe they take the cap space and run...
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Pretty much what I was thinking. They're pretty much in a Heatley situation with him there, except he doesn't have a NTC. Plus they take Gormely, Fowler or Gudbranson with that pick and they have a replacement in 3 to 5 years.
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05-26-2010, 04:21 PM
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To Montreal: Doug Murray, Ryan Clowe.
To SJ: Carey price.
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05-26-2010, 04:31 PM
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That's a rather large overpayment from the Sharks. Plus, they have Greiss, they don't need another young prospect goalie.
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05-27-2010, 09:51 AM
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That's a rather large overpayment from the Sharks. Plus, they have Greiss, they don't need another young prospect goalie.
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have to agree.
If SJ did need a young goalie i don't think it would be an overpayment at all.
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05-27-2010, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt the Aussie
That's a rather large overpayment from the Sharks. Plus, they have Greiss, they don't need another young prospect goalie.
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I wouldn't consider either Price or Halak "prospects". They've both played 100+ regular season games and Halak, at least, has already proven himself in the playoffs, something the Sharks need badly.
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05-27-2010, 03:47 PM
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I wouldn't consider either Price or Halak "prospects". They've both played 100+ regular season games and Halak, at least, has already proven himself in the playoffs, something the Sharks need badly.
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Nabokov will stay for less money you would think.
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“Obviously this organization is one of the best organizations in the NHL,” he said as he and his teammates cleaned out lockers for the season. “We took a huge step this year and I hope to be part of the next step. But we’ll see.”
The questions persisted and Nabokov went a little further when he was asked how tough it would be to change teams at this point in his career.
“So you say I will change teams?,” he responded. ” It’s my option, it’s also the Sharks’ option.”
More questions came and eventually Nabokov made things clearer from his perspective.
“Let’s face it, the mission is not accomplished yet,” he said of the Sharks’ goal of winning the Stanley Cup. “I want to be a part of it, but I don’t know if it’s up to me.”
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Source: Evgeni Nabokov on future with Sharks: ‘I want to be part of it, but I don’t know if it’s up to me’ | Working the Corners
So in that case, why would SJ roll 3 goalies?
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